right at obama. my advice, ignore jim lehr, and, like i do with juan williams... ignore the question and, do not answer jim lehr, speak to obama in the second person, you have failed and here's what we can do differently, to make it a sharp contrast. >> chris: interestingly enough, liz, when i talked to congressman ryan, about the fact that romney needs a clear victory, because of the state of the polls, he pushed back, very much against that. does he need a clear victory? >> yes. he does, i mean, i think there is universal consensus he has to shake up the trajectory of his race and a safe performance will not probably be enough at this point. having said that, i think it might not be that hard for romney to get a win in the first debate, challengers tend to get the win in the first debate against the incumbent. >> chris: by the fact they're on the same stage with the president. >> and presidents sometimes feel on some level a little irritated they have to go through this and sometimes it customs across and, i think the dynamic, actually, in some ways, all romney has to do and i disagree
